The Watchtower of October 1, 1984 has an autobiographical article by Karl F Klein, who entered Bethel (Brooklyn) service on March 23, 1925. In this he states that Rutherford later admitted ‘I made an ass of myself’
Sea Breeze
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What is is your favorite REDICULOUS JW falsehood? :)
by Balaamsass2 ini get a few good laughs from the ex-jw facebook site: " ex jw humor will set you free".. i was laughing over dinner with 3rd gen over this post tonight: "question for the audience: i was driving around today and it hit me...there are big falsehoods (armageddon etc.
) that we were told, but also ridiculous falsehoods.
what is your favorite ridiculous falsehoods?
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Do JWs Get Excited About WT Publications Any More?
by NotFormer inmemory from long ago: my old mate from high school lived next door to a jw and was often "treated" to the latest jw literature.
when the "you can live forever in paradise on earth"* book came out, this neighbour waxed lyrical about how good this book was and how powerful the message was.
he acted really keen about it, like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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No, its all about creepy fear-mongering now.
Check out this creepy clip from RonPOMO from the Conventions just starting this summer. The music and lyrics are straight out of some hypnotic cult serial killer movie: -
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What is is your favorite REDICULOUS JW falsehood? :)
by Balaamsass2 ini get a few good laughs from the ex-jw facebook site: " ex jw humor will set you free".. i was laughing over dinner with 3rd gen over this post tonight: "question for the audience: i was driving around today and it hit me...there are big falsehoods (armageddon etc.
) that we were told, but also ridiculous falsehoods.
what is your favorite ridiculous falsehoods?
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Sea Breeze
Probably the rejection of one of the main pilliars of the Christian faith - Justification.
"being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him". - Romans 5: 9
(See Wt. 1938 PG. 104-105 - "The… other sheep… are… not even justified“)
How Do Jehovah's Witnesses Plan To Avoid The Wrath of God in Romans 5: 9 Since They Reject The Doctrine of Justification? -
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Romans 10: 9 Simple Salvation - Not So Fast Says WT.
by Sea Breeze in"if you confess with your mouth that jesus is lord and believe in your heart that god raised him from the dead, you will be saved".
- romans 10: 9. i find it interesting that this simple requirement for salvation has been a specific target of wt since their beginning.. first, jw's call jehovah lord, not jesus.
the fact that scripture calls jesus the king of kings and lord of lords doesn't seem to matter to them.
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Sea Breeze
"if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved". - Romans 10: 9
I find it interesting that this simple requirement for salvation has been a specific target of WT since their beginning.
First, JW's call Jehovah Lord, not Jesus. The fact that scripture calls Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords doesn't seem to matter to them.
Secondly, since almost its inception the WT has denied the bodily resurrection (which is the only kind there is) of Jesus.
It's almost like the WT specifically crafted doctrines to cheat people out of the pithy, simplicity of salvation announced in Romans 10:9.
In this bizare WT statement below, the reason for denying the bodily resurrection of Jesus is blamed on the Van Allen radiation belt.
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JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law
by Chevelle inaccording to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .
https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.
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Sea Breeze
In the bible, it's called a reprobate mind.
"God gave them over to a reprobate mind" - Romans 1: 28
1. Not enduring proof or trial
2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace
3. To abandon to wickedness and eternal destruction.
4. To abandon to his sentence, without hope of pardon.
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JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law
by Chevelle inaccording to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .
https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.
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Sea Breeze
@Diogenesister,
On arrival, officers said the group were chanting "Jehovah" and refused to exit the vehicle.
Officers added that the people in the SUV “displayed extreme strength”, were unaffected by pepper spray and did not relent when shot with Tasers.I wished I could say this was unusual. But, they sound just like my JW family and JW relatives I grew up in. JW's are under some sort of spell.
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JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law
by Chevelle inaccording to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .
https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.
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Sea Breeze
It will be interesting to see the details of this come out. JW elders are not supposed to have guns. He apparently stabbed them to death.
Maybe the WT should ban knives as well.
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JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law
by Chevelle inaccording to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .
https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.
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Sea Breeze
@NotFormer
If you read the suicide note of the lady who murdered her whole family in Michigan a couple years ago, it is obvious she thought that she was “saving” them from a life of pain when she decided to end her own life.
She No doubt reasoned that while she might not be resurrected, certainly her family would wake up in paradise petting panda bears and then get in line for one of those a big houses on a lake that WT prints in their literature.
In the wacky world of watchtower wisdom, she was doing them all a favor.
By the way, some English speaking sources are now saying these recent murders were committed by a JW elder.
Appointed by Holy Spirit? Oh please.
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JW (?) murders wife and mother-in-law
by Chevelle inaccording to several spanish ex-jw youtube channels, this is a jw family... but i'm still trying to confirm... .
https://www.fox29.com/news/mom-daughter-found-stabbed-philadelphia-basement.
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Sea Breeze
Probably just another JW trying to "save" his loved ones with the twisted WT doctrine that death absolves a person of their sin debt.
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Is the 1000 year reign literal?
by gavindlt into all those on this students on this forum, i would love to know what your view is?.
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Sea Breeze
Yes, it is literal. However, Catholics and 1/3 of Evangelicals believe it is symbolic. That position is called amillenial. It started with Augustine around 400 AD. Early church leaders all believed it was literal.
This is THE biggest reason the WT experienced so much success early on.... most Christians hadn't heard the "kingdom message" as explained by WT and they ended up getting duped into rejecting the new covenant "for the forgiveness of sins" described in Mt. 26: 27-28.
A literal Kingdom is embraced by 2/3 of all Evangelicals. However, the Kingdom message is still primarily a future message that will be preached during the Great Trib.
The message during the church age (age of grace) is to be reconciled to God:
2 Cor. 5: 18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not [a]imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.
